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Tuesday July 2, 2013

I’m not finished with this argument of convenience, context.

It really amazes me how people can read something that is an obvious lie, like “Upon it’s summit His feet will rest when He shall come again,” (Desire of Ages, p. 830) and, as in yesterday’s example, want everyone to jump through hoops to explain away what it says.

About this very passage a man writes, …

I have read and re-read the passage in DA many times, and I believe it’s talking about the time when Christ comes back with all the saints after the 1000 years, and there will be millions of Hebrews and Gentiles all together praising God for His amazing goodness. The phrase “come again” may be understood in different ways. But knowing Ellen White’s teachings, we know she did not teach that Christ will set foot on the earth at His second coming. She clearly states that Christ will not set foot on earth until after the 1000 years are finished. This means the words “when He shall come again” refer to the time when Christ shall come again for the second time. “Come again” need not only refer to the first return of Christ for His Church. He will also “come again” when He returns with His people after the thousand years.

In the first place opinion is opinion, not fact. The sentence is claimed to be authored by God, that’s right and you can read that for yourself in the R&H of January 20, 1903, page 15, left column, first paragraph break up from the bottom. I’ll put it here.

Sister White is not the originator of these books.

This is another argument of convenience for the church. When it suits their purpose they claim just what it says above and when it suits their purposes in another direction they claim to know the proper definition of inspiration, then proceed to tell you that Ellen was indeed the author.

Back to this man. He tells us that “the phrase “come again” may be understood in different ways.” No kidding!? To take up his position, let’s take any other two word set from the same sentence and they can also “be understood in different ways!” This is a ridiculous argument.

The sentence reads the way it reads, the way it was written. To dismantle the thing and cry context, to sanction a lie, is just wrong. This is not scholarly, it’s childish.

Now watch as this man tries to pull the rabbit out of the hat.

She clearly states that Christ will not set foot on earth until after the 1000 years are finished. This means the words “when He shall come again” refer to the time when Christ shall come again for the second time.

Notice how, as stated yesterday, context is expanded at will, it’s an argument of convenience. He goes to every other place, mentally here, no references listed, which is ok, pulls out the truth and then claims that that truth sanctions the lie. It does not.

This is the very point I am making about the argument of context being used to sanction a lie. Which is also the very point we are continually making on this site, there is a counterfeit! And just like counterfeit money, people will spend it until it is busted for what it really is.

That is what we are doing, busting the counterfeit SOP and proving the lie. God tells us in no uncertain words that when Christ comes again he will not touch the earth, but we will meet him in the air. That is the truth and no one has to jump through hoops to understand it!!!

It’s usually the overly sophisticated that have such a hard time with the things we prove here. And for the record, though it really needn’t be said, we wrote none of these books and papers, we are only reading and saying, “Hey! look at what I found!” But the opposition would claim that this is all wrong, as we have shown here today.

Prove all things, your eternal life is at stake.

God Bless your study

Monday July 1, 2013

Context. It seems almost as if everyone is screaming CONTEXT! Yet this is but the lie of Satan and it is harvesting it’s millions.

Many people come and look at this site and can not reconcile the conflicts in the alleged writings of Ellen G. White. With good reason. So they go ask their pastor, which is reasonable, but all too often people are giving up their own decision making ability. And I understand that. It’s difficult to be watching TV and trying to be “religious” all at the same time; I mean it’s distracting.

I came across an interesting truism some time back. I seems to fit here.

What is proven trumps what is claimed, everything else is just commentary.

We are going to take a look at this “in context” argument that so many are shouting about these days. In my opinion it is nothing more than an argument of convenience. Here is why and an example. In Desire of Ages on page 568, ten lines up from the bottom, it declares plainly that “He [Christ] is to-day [meaning every day] standing at the altar of incense….”

This statement is a lie of Satan. I’m going to show you some arguments from another who claims to understand context. Here they are.

I’ve already shown how Christ’s Day of Atonement ministry also involves work in the Holy Place, … Figuratively, Christ still performs all the “Daily” ministry as well, so that He can be portrayed as before the altar of incense if the context is the ministry of Christ in terms of our prayers. … the Day of Atonement ministry involves several movements from Courtyard to Most Holy Place … Jesus is truly standing in front of the altar of incense every time He performs the ministry over prayer.

In considering the various arguments it is important to understand where the professed believer stands in his understanding of inspiration. So many people in and out of the church believe that Ellen was the author of everything with her name on it. But as we show on this site, it is not so.

Back to the argument, look at this man’s understanding. This is the most ridiculous argument for an SDA to make, it almost trumps Vance Ferrell’s on the same point. Here are his words. Notice how he leads off on the context, again.

The context is speaking about Christ’s great love and care for His erring earthly children. Ellen is so filled with feeling that she waxes eloquent with powerful symbolic language to illustrate her meaning: “pour out the vials of His wrath,” “wipe this dark spot,” “standing at the altar of incense,” turn to Him for refuge,” “strife of tongues,” “impeach these souls.” Notice the final sentence: They stand beside their Sin Bearer, “in the light proceeding from the throne of God.” That light is not now in the first apartment, which is blocked by a veil from God’s glory in the second. So, by faith, they are standing by Him in the second, not the first, apartment. The Teachings of Vern Bates, by Vance Ferrell, about 2007.

Notice the hoops these people have to jump through to attempt to explain away a direct lie. This is the stuff of the counterfeit SOP. How many times have you heard people talk about the deceptions of Satan, that they are truth mixed with a little error, or a lot, if you like.

By the use of the argument of convenience, context, people can claim what they please, all they have to do is enlarge the context to include what they need.

If they want context, then let’s meet them with context! But, we will take the same privilege they claim, we will set the bounds of context for our own arguments. Why limit context to just a few lines in one book? after all, this is really all about the Great Controversy between Christ and his angels and Satan and his angels.

Therefore the real context is all about this six thousand year old Great Controversy. In this real true context we can see much more clearly in the light of day. We can get the scope of the whole context. So lets see what God has to say that bears on the subject.

God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 1 John 1:5

And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Deuteronomy 8:3

Every word of God is pure: Proverbs 30:5

He is the Rock, his work is perfect: Deuteronomy 32:4

As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is tried: 2 Samuel 22:31

your Father which is in heaven is perfect. Matthew 5:48

Now, looking at these matters in the really true context of the Great Controversy, we find that God is perfect, does a perfect work, and every word of his is perfect.

It’s not just the sentence, it’s not just the phrase, oh no, it’s every word. When you have a prefect God, putting perfect words together, you get a perfect work, which is exactly what the Bible declares, and is.

The authentic Spirit of Prophecy is exactly the same, for God himself is the true author, not Ellen. She was not intelligent enough to have produced the highly sophisticated works of the Spirit of Prophecy. The perfect harmony between it and the Bible is testimony to God’s authorship.

How many places in the Bible are we required to jump through the hoops that the counterfeit SOP requires? None!

The really true context, that of the Great Controversy between Christ and his angels and Satan and his angels, is that from which we will work.

God Bless your Study

Tuesday March 12, 2013

Someone wrote in and said the changes in No. 26 were not that big a deal. Here is my answer.

If I give you a $50.00 bill for something and you take it to the store to spend it, the cashier gets out her trusty little marker and swipes it across the bill and tells you it’s not real, then you would be upset, for you would realize the decption. That is the whole purpose of the counterfeit, to deceive.

Now let’s suppose that I give you a couple of $1.00 bills which you take to the store. The cashier doesn’t even bat an eye. The bills are accepted and passed, but only because they are considered of small value. The same is true of a $5.00 bill and a $10.00 bill. They don’t even start checking until a $20.00 bill.

The counterfeit SOP is just like that example. People look at some of the changes and consider them to be of small value, so they are given a pass. Then you have the $5.00 and $10.00 changes. People start raising their eyebrows at that! It starts to hurt just a little.

Then you have the $20.00 changes. Now people start getting mad. And next is the $50.00 changes. This might be like the Desire of Ages on page 568 saying Christ is in the holy place. After this it becomes the lie that is so big people refuse to deal with it, kinda like 9/11 in New York or the letter that says “Ellen Dreams of James,” who instructs her as the voice of God.

Which is very similar to the .gov printing real dollars and spending them in excess of what they have collected in taxes.

The counterfeit is not the work of God or Ellen, his true servant; it is the work of the devil, Satan.

The very nature of the counterfeit is to make it hard to detect. That is why they invented the marker the cashier uses. She knows little of the truth about dollar bills, she doesn’t have to, she just uses the marker. It’s a pass or fail simple test.

God brought in his marker in the form of a computer software program that makes comparisons, creating a simple pass or fail test.

I too have read this and found mostly $1.00 and $5.00 changes, but it looks like there are couple of $10.00 changes, and maybe a $20.00.

I would never try to spend the counterfeit SOP in Heaven’s store…..

Don’t forget Eve. She looked, she listened, she saw, she thought, “it was good for food.”
But God said, it was for death.

Here is the comparison of that portion.

God Bless your Study

Wednesday May 30, 2012

I am going to post an excerpt of an email I received from Jerry. It is more proof that you should not use any other Bible than the KJV. You will remember that most arguments surround the idea that the KJV is too hard to read. But that is exactly the whole point. The hidden treasure is there, in the Bible explaining itself. When you move to another translation, you have a counterfeit Bible, just as we have the counterfeit SOP; this is the defiled bread.

Click on this link and poke around a bit. I really like the picture of the gnarly moldy bread; now that is defiled!!! But it makes the point. What are you doing trying to get fed with defiled bread?

Here is the email. Notice the words in red are not a match for the KJV in green.

Perfection Study Comparison by Jerry

2 Timothy 3:17
(KJV)  That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
(NIV)  so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
(NKJV)  that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

Jude 1:1
(KJV)  Jude, the servant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, to them that are sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ, and called:
(NIV)  Jude, a servant of Jesus Christ and a brother of James, To those who have been called, who are loved in God the Father and kept for Jesus Christ:
(NKJV)  Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and brother of James, To those who are called, sanctified by God the Father, and preserved in Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 4:12
(KJV)  For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
(NIV)  to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up
(NKJV)  for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,

Hebrews 13:21
(KJV)  Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
(NIV)  equip you with everything good for doing his will, and may he work in us what is pleasing to him, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
(NKJV)  make you complete in every good work to do His will, working in you what is well pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen.

Luke 6:40
(KJV)  The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
(NIV)  The student is not above the teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like their teacher.
(NKJV)  A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is perfectly trained will be like his teacher.


 That’s why a lot of people never strive for perfection.

    Rock Climbers are equipped, but not necessarily perfect.

    Seminary Students may complete their degree, but are not necessarily perfect

    Elderly people may be mature, but are not necessarily perfect.

    So when they look at you funny when you say you are perfecting your character with the Lords help, you can remember why they think that way, it’s their defiled bread.  J.

God Bless your study

Tuesday May 15, 2012

I have to share with you portions of an email exchange I had with a man who wrote in, apparently more with an intent to get me to discuss some topic that he was dealing with. In order to accomplish his goal, he threw some things at me to generate a response.

I love it when people write in. I do my best to answer any questions they may have or get them the information they seek. But I have one rigid rule. After answering a question of yours, I expect you to think about my question to you, and answer it. Failure to answer questions and actually have a discussion, means I will terminate the waste of my time.

But if you are serious about wanting information and will enter a discussion, I will do all in my power to help you. Period.

So this guy writes, and I think he asks the question that comes into every SDA’s mind.

    If Willie was writing stuff supposing to come from Ellen White then surely God would have revealed this to her that her son was forging letters?

I remember having this question also. There are, however, several assumptions attached to this question.

1.) Perhaps the first assumption is, that God would have made such information public.

I think the answer is two. In No. 20, page 47, God tells us that he was going to remove the Spirit of Prophecy from the church. I think he used Willie to accomplish that purpose. Second, it is being made public, just a hundred years after the fact, right here. Are you listening?

2.) Another assumption is that you would be privy to everything God told Ellen. I believe Ellen’s second vision was never written out. It was for her personally. You can read about that in her short autobiography.

3.) It was not just letters, as we prove here. Willie led the team that re-wrote everything previous to that time, and then published that re-write, as if it were original. I know, I used to think this too.

4.) This question assumes that Ellen had a way to publish something without going through Willie. I don’t think so. I have not found any such evidence.

5.) Let’s assume that God did tell Ellen, and, that Ellen wrote up something and put it in the post office, sending it without Willie’s knowledge. This assumes that whoever got the communication was actually on God’s side, actually had the power to publish something and send it out to the churches, completely circumventing any and all Satan’s controls. Ok, show it to me.

The only thing that comes close is a talk Ellen gave, it was transcribed and published by the people who heard the talk. It’s on our download page. I don’t think anyone in the church had anything to do with it’s publication, and it doesn’t say anything about Willie.

But the email gets better. I challenged the man to answer the charge that the alleged letter from Ellen, “Ellen Dreams of James,” was blasphemy. This was his answer.

    These two letters seem Okay to me “Ellen Dreams” James could just be being used as an allegory. It could be a allegory used in a dream and James is being used to Give Ellen a gentle warning to slow down a little though GOD is really the one speaking.

    you know what you are  implying even if you do not know it yourself? That Ellen White is a false prophet after 1881 which brings everything she wrote into question

    God can do anything though right?

    God can make an animal speak

    and God is using James to tell Ellen to slow down or you will ware yourself out like James did and die early before you can finish your work

     it is God who is really speaking to her.

    When i come across these Changes or that which seems to be contradictory i just take it as a deeper Level of GOD`s character to be understood or searched out and we are admonished to prove all things hold fast that which is good.

Some willingly want to believe that the church leadership, so deep in apostasy that they would give a gold medallion to the pope, would be and remain 100% perfect and trustworthy about keeping the Spirit of Prophecy untouched. On this site, we prove otherwise.

God Bless your study

Wednesday April 4, 2012

A new comment on the post “Sabbath March 31.2, 2012” is waiting for your approval

I have to share with you this comment from a man who is a false prophet. He claims to be a prophet from God for the SDA church. He also claims to have had several visions. I have no doubt that he has had visions, just not from God.

Art, Here is the context of your diabolical statement about Ellen White’s January 20, 1903, article. She was merely saying: “Sister White is the the originator of these books. They contain th instruction that during her life=work God has been giving her. They contain the precious, comforting light that God has graciously given his servant to be given to the world.”

HOW COULD YOU SO SATANICALLY DISTORT THE VERY WORDS WRITTEN BY ELLEN G. WHITE? I have the original Reveiw and Herale Articles and it reads just as I submit it to you below. Ron Beaulieu

(Clipped for brevity) {RH January 20, 1903, Art. B, par. 4}

I knew Ron from before I had met Verne Bates. Shortly after I met Verne and bought my books, I sent a computer and a set of books to Ron, the original books. But I was deceived. I remember Ron sending me an email in which he said, “I will NEVER believe” God did not protect these books from harm, or from being changed.

Well, interestingly, God did not prevent the pure KJV of the Bible from being changed.

Shortly after that Ron claimed to have had another vision. In this vision he was instructed that the pioneers were going to be re-incarnated, only, he would not call it that, he called it re-generated. But the process was the same. Someone would have a baby girl and it would be Ellen White all over again.

That was the point that broke the deception from me. I knew beyond any doubt that Ron was a false prophet. That vision is in complete war against the Bible and the authentic Spirit of Prophecy. Ron may be beyond repentance.

For him to accept the original, authentic Spirit of Prophecy would mean he actually would be admitting to having been led by Satan these many years. “God does nothing in partnership with Satan.” No. 27, p. 129. God is not going to endorse the counterfeit SOP to anybody. It is a creation of man; which we prove on this site, by simple comparison, using a highly accurate computer program.

For God to quote from a book like “Desire of Ages,” in vision to anybody, would be endorsing it; and he is too pure for that. “God is light and in him is no darkness at all.” Praise his holy name!

Now this came in at 9:38 am my time, and Ron is about two or three hours east of me. And I checked, today’s [Monday] expanded post on Sabbath’s post was up on Sunday, at 8:30 pm my time. Ron should have checked. He is claiming, in reality, that the books are not counterfeited. But today we show that Marian Davis was doing the work! by the church’s own admission! Which is exactly what she claimed! some time later; which is exactly what was eluded to in the 1919 Bible Conference paper we are currently studying.

    We quote: “Daniells expressed his opinion that holding to a verbal inspiration concept of the Testimonies was illogical “because everybody who has ever seen the work done knows better, and we might as well dismiss it.’ [19] p. 9, Para. 3, [1919BIBL].

But, attributing the work of Satan to God is blasphemy. This is the position that Ron has taken. He claims the GCSDA church is wicked; yet, he proposes we all just trust the White Estate 100%!?!?!

We praise God that in his providence Ron sent in this comment so that we could expose him for the false prophet that he is. Perhaps some poor soul was deceived as I and will now be set free by God’s truth.

I really thought Ron had better sense to just stay away. I had posted a short paragraph on him years ago.
Just down from the top.

Ron needs to start proving “all things,” especially his visions. But this is too painful because of the admission he would then be forced to make, i.e. that Satan gave him his visions, and doubtless will never happen.

God Bless your proving all things

Thursday November 3, 2011

I remember hearing a talk from a man who had visited Egypt. When he commented on the amount of things the king had, his guide replied, “Well sir, you would not understand this, but the king believed that there was so little of this life, and so much of the next life, that he should spend all of this life preparing for the next life.”

That is quite the commentary from an earthly king, wouldn’t you say?

It is not enough to be willing to give liberally of your means to the cause of God. He calls for an unreserved consecration of all your powers. Withholding yourselves has been the mistake of your life. You may think it very difficult in your position to maintain a close connection with God; but your work will be tenfold harder if you fail to do this. Satan will beset your path with his temptations, and it is only through Christ that you can gain the victory. The same indomitable will that gives success in intellectual pursuits is essential in the Christian course. You must be representatives of Jesus Christ. Your energy and perseverance in perfecting a Christian character should be as much greater than that displayed in any other pursuit, as the things of eternity are of more importance than temporal affairs. p. 32, Para. 2, [30OT].

If you ever achieve success in the Christian life, you must resolve that you will be men after God’s own heart. The Lord wants your influence to be exerted in the church and in the world to elevate the standard of Christianity. True Christian character should be marked by a firmness of purpose, an indomitable determination, which cannot be molded or subdued by earth or hell. He who is not blind to the attraction of worldly honors, indifferent to threats, and unmoved by allurements, will be, all unexpectedly to himself, overthrown by Satan’s devices. p. 33, Para. 1, [30OT].


Think of all the things God is offering to us, peace, security, life forever, love, companionship, not just World travel – Universe travel, a beautiful home (remember it is called a mansion), a kingship with a crown, gold and jewels without count, wings to fly, no airplane needed, energy flows through your body with no need to rest or sleep, pets of every description, flowers that don’t die after you bring them into your home, never being too cold or too hot, no air-conditioning needed, no stress, no pressure to meet some deadline, ability to play beautiful music on a harp with no lessons, ability to sing with the best choir ever, or do your own solo, time to follow any interest, food of incredible variety, …….

WHAT! is not to like?!?!

All God asks is….

   Many misunderstand the object for which they were created. It was to bless humanity and glorify God rather than to enjoy and glorify self. p. 144, Para. 1, [28OT].

Heaven awaits! “Lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh.”

God Bless your perfection


And this just in…..
(edited to protect privacy)

Dear Art,

What a find indeed; [re: Wednesday’s post] such ‘miswordings’ intentional or accidental (by repetition from someone else not knowing) are a real trap for the ‘searchers for truth’. It falls in the lap of the JW’s and other First Day Adventists that expect the Mercy Of God to save EVEYBODY.

Here, over all this region, there is no one that I personnaly know, that accepts the SOP to be inspired by the Holy Spirit of God through the ministry of EGW; I was told point blank a good 18 years ago when I went around visiting the few small sda groups around the general area; since then, I keep myself apart from all of them.

I knew that education is the PRIDE of mind that keeps people from the HUMILITY of Jesus (learn of Me, He says, that I am meek & lowly in heart).

The RENAISSANCE was also a large ARTISTIC & EDUCATIONAL & INDUSTRIAL BLANKET COVERAGE since already more than 500 hundred years, to hide the influence of the REFORMATION & it began just as the Gutenberg & Luther’s and others were raising PROTESTATION against the established order and then the Jesuits were ”set up to go large” on the specific educational universities & houses of knowledge to thwart the advancement of the bible truths being opened to the people’s minds.

I remember Herman [Hohen] mentioning in his pamphlets that the researches in the CHANGES has but just begun and it is in the ”READING, TRANSLATING & COMPARING” the original 3 earlier books that we will have a strong platform to stand on.

Thanks for the HEADS-UP my friend,

Friday August 27, 2010

This morning I am able to access this site.

The denial of access was limited to this site only and was geographically specific.

That took some doing. However, in the process, something got messed up and had to be fixed.

There is much we do not know. What we do know is that there is no privacy on the net. Those who think there is, or it can be created using various tools, are dreamers. The day will come when the dreamers will be sitting in court looking the list of every item they ever put out on the net.

Think like this, what would you do if you had truly un-limited resources?

The important of thinking like that is because “they” do, have un-limited resources.

They create money with a computer entry. And then spend it just like you do with the money you had to actually work for, imagine that!

That is a big part of why this house of cards is in collapse.

To move ahead, posts will continue to be added until God allows this site to be taken.

The soon coming hate speech laws may be focused toward these goals. Let them eat cake.

Today is their day.

Tomorrow, is forever. Eternity stretches out before our mind’s eye to the horizon of your farthermost thoughts and beyond. What human can comprehend the things that God hath prepared for those who will walk by faith?

This is the challenge, to believe!

Sabbath July 31, 2010 8:27 PM

Just doing some thinking here…. out loud, as it were.

My current understanding of our current position. No references given. Search the blog for info.

All these items are now concurrent.

1.) Since October 22, 1844, we are in The Great Day of Atonement.

2.) Since October 22, 1844, we are now in the third watch. Apparently the first watch was the watch for the first time set for the second coming of Christ. Then, apparently, the second watch was the second time set for the second coming of Christ, October 22, 1844. This makes us in the third watch, which is an indeterminate time.

3.) We now walk by faith on the path to the city, in the light of the Midnight Cry.

4.) The Shaking has been on-going since, at least, January 26, 1850

5.) We are in the time of the six men with slaughter weapons slaying and one with a writers inkhorn placing a mark or seal on God’s people.

6.) The message to the church of the Laodiceans applies to us now.

7.) We are in the patient, waiting, watching time.

8.) The third woe started October 22, 1844 with the sounding of the trumpet of the seventh angel.

We wait for that is yet to come….

Mostly in order.

1.) Satan raises an excitement in the religious bodies.

2.) USA exercises all the power of the first beast before him.

3.) Sunday law is made a test.

4.) The Loud Cry is God’s response to the Sunday law.

5.) The world raises a persecution against God’s people.

6.) Close of probation for all mankind and the closing ceremony for the temple in Heaven. Some begin to run to and fro to the north and to the east searching for the word of God.

7.) Plagues fall on the wicked.

8.) Voice of God sounds to resurrect those who have died in the faith of the third angel’s message.

9.) Voice of God sounds making a covenant with those who have kept his law and proclaiming the day and hour of Christ’s second coming.

10.) Second coming of Christ.

11.) God people truly live happily ever after, ever after, ever after!

Friday Apr 9, 2010 10:00 pm

Some of you may not be much moved by what I said about having your own web site.

Read this

Oldspapers and the Crisis of the Establishment

be convinced, it’s a trend that is picking up steam, and just MAY be a huge factor in the speed of the loud cry.

Think about it.