Category: .b The 2520 Days

Monday May 6, 2013

We would kindly refer you back to Wednesday’s post, May 1, for a summary of what we are about today, as we are working on the last item, No. 5, as listed there.

So what is the purpose of the 2520 prophecy? Matter of fact, what is the purpose of any of the prophecies? I like to go to extremes in thought processes, it helps to clarify the point at hand.

The 2520 prophetic timeline is a second confirmation that the year 1843 was the correct year for the calculation. The fact that God hid (and in plain sight!! mind you) that the correct date required a tighter calculation is not a fault on their part. When God hides something, no one will ever see it until he reveals it. We are his created creatures and totally dependant on him for everything, like it or not.

And it is especially true of the correct understanding of the Bible. Remember, spiritual things are spiritually understood. And this, not by the will of man. In humility we come to him for understanding.

Because we are now living in the time of the end, spoken of in Matthew 24:14, almost all prophecy has come to pass. The 2520 prophetic timeline is in this group. God told us very specifically three very important points about prophecy, found in the 1858 Great Controversy, page 148.

 

I saw that they were correct in their reckoning of the prophetic periods. Prophetic time closed in 1844.

 

Two very simple sentences, a great anchor for God’s people of the last days, the 144,000. The first item we need to understand is the plain message of the first sentence. The pioneers “were correct in their reckoning of the prophetic periods.” The message is very plain, very simple, and very direct. When someone comes along and tells you that the pioneers made a mistake, you can simply point them to this page and tell them the truth. If they will not accept the truth from God then you probably need to put some distance between you.

And just to repeat it, it is impossible for Ellen to have authored the Spirit of Prophecy, it’s far too complex for any human mind to handle. Willie and Uriah proved that when God gave them a turn at the helm. God is the author, and for the depreciated humans of these last days the authentic Spirit of Prophecy was given “not to give new light; but to impress with vividness the truths of inspiration already revealed.” This brings clarity to a correct understanding.

Second, note carefully the last two words of the first sentence, “prophetic periods.” This correctly tells us there was more than one, which includes the 2520. And third, note carefully and compare the ending of the first sentence and the last sentence. “Prophetic periods” is something different than “prophetic time.” Here again a great anchor for our faith is presented. There are far too many people that want to apply prophetic time, a day for a year, to other prophecies. This is a device of Satan that God has warned us about and provided the anchor for our faith so we will not get caught in Satan’s snare.

More specifically to the point. The 2520 and the 2300 day prophetic timelines are an integral part of the 1843 chart. The 1843 chart is an integral part of proving the Advent faith to be correct. It is instructive to see the SDA church today in wide departure from the Advent faith of the pioneers. Something is bad wrong.

Today’s SDA church will gladly teach you just how wrong the Advent pioneers were, but they have no prophet who does not breath for hours in public while in vision. What they do have is the Biblical Research Institute, and prayer that goes to the Holy place, where Satan appears to be trying to carry on the work of God by breathing on them light and power. They have no healings by the power of God. What they do have is worldly doctors and drug therapy.

They claim to be teaching the third angel’s message, but it is not a true message and here is why.

 

Those who present this message [the third angel’s] understandingly, must first show the fulfillment of the messages of the first and second angel’s [verses 6-8,] [sic] in the past Advent movement. Thus they chain all three messages together, show their harmony, and the fulfillment of God’s word in them, and the testimony relative to the second coming of Christ is bound up.

 

God’s true people will teach the third angel’s message in this way. This is far different from what the SDA church teaches. The true Advent pioneers would not be members of the apostate SDA church of today.

All have to choose who they will follow, Christ or loyalty to the SDA church, none can have both.

God Bless your study

Sunday May 5, 2013

We would kindly refer you back to Wednesday’s post, May 1, for a summary of what we are about today, as we are working on item No. 4, as listed there.

It is very tempting to some poor souls to get up some new thing to excite their audience. All too often they go for prophecy. After all, there are a great deal of figures used and they must mean something more, right?

I remember reading about one man’s idea. He was making a big deal about Daniel 8:5 where the he goat is depicted as not touching the ground; therefore he was re-applying this prophecy to our day and the fact that the military now used jets and flew without touching the ground.

All such attempts are very foolish and prove a great lack of humility on the part of the person who attempts such. After all, where would you draw the line at what repeats and what does not? Once you open that door to Satan’s devices there is no stopping place. Someone could claim that because the image of Daniel 2 has two legs it must have two applications, yeah?

Once this is done all prophetic timelines are up for grabs. Anybody can make any claim and there would be no restraint. But God has foreseen all this and made provision for his saints.

 

We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 2 Peter 1:19

 

This sure word is an anchor and a wall to defend the truth. But it doesn’t stop there, it continues, because God knows the truth will be assalted.

 

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20

 

And here is the core issue. People are stepping off the platform. Remember that chapter in the 1858 Great Controversy? chapter 29, A Firm Platform. Here are some excerpts.

 

I saw a company who stood well guarded and firm, and would give no countenance to those who would unsettle the established faith of the body.

 

Notice that it is the established faith. What is this established faith? We turn to the Supplement to the Christian Experience and Views.

 

I was shown like this. The truth once got out now, will stand; for it is the truth for the last days, and it will live, and less need to be said upon the truth after it is out. p. 14, Para. 2, [SUPCEV].

 

Right here is where the true followers of Christ are found, following the truth for the last days, the truth that has already been gotten out. But this requires humility. This means that THE BIG ‘I’ can not claim to have discovered some new “present truth” for the last days. No. Because it’s already been got out! And this is the truth that we need to get out. This is the truth that we need to study. It’s already laid out in the authentic Spirit of Prophecy, the KJV Bible, and the writings of the true pioneers.

These people who are trying to get up some new thing think they know what is present truth. They don’t. They don’t. If they did they would be quaking in their boots for fear of God’s wrath! They are using other translations of the bible and the counterfeit SOP to “prove” their points. I laugh at them!! I know you can prove almost anything from materials provided by Satan!

You can “prove” that Christ is in Holy place, not the Most Holy; that when Christ comes the second time he will stand on the mount of Olives, and that the atonement was completed on the cross, all from Desire of Ages! And there are plenty of other sources from the counterfeit that will agree! And these are in harmony with the other translations of the bible.

This is the importance of understanding that prophecy does not repeat. We are in the patient, waiting, watching time. The next known event is for Sunday to be made a test, then the loud cry will be God’s response, No. 6, page 22. But this patient, waiting, watching time is also many other things. Follow this link for the list of 23 events and processes we are living under.

These are the things of present truth. These are the truths that have been “got out” already. These are the truths that are designed to prepare the saints for the grave or translation, R&H, May 6, 1862.

Besides, if a prophecy repeats,… how many times would it repeat? Maybe we should study….

God Bless your Study

Sabbath May 4, 2013

We would kindly refer you back to Wednesday’s post, May 1, for a summary of what we are about today, as we are working on item No. 3, as listed there.

There are two main pieces of material we will examine for evidence of Uriah’s hand at work. The first is an article published in the R&H of January 26, 1864, The Seven Times of Lev. xxvi., herein after referred to as A1, which claims that the 2520 is not a valid prophetic timeline. I suggest that you take a moment and download that issue from the GC Archives site and read the article, if you have not done so already.

The second of these is an appendix to Uriah’s book, herein after referred to as A2, Daniel and Revelation, which can be found on the White Estate CD. Here is the reference: {1897 UrS, DAR 784.3}.

While most people claim that James White wrote the above mentioned article, we will show evidence that it was in all probability written by Uriah Smith; having already, yesterday, given sufficient evidence to show that no one has actual proof that James wrote the article.

Proceeding with our evidence, we will show the similarities between the two afore mentioned articles, one provably authored by Uriah Smith. Second, we will prove Uriah’s continued rebellion against the light God sent to his church, all the way to the grave. We will further prove James’ stance upon the 2520 prophecy in 1875 and his continued faithfulness in obedience to God his entire life.

Here are the similarities between the two articles. These are considered to be the literary tracks of Uriah’s hand, words and word combinations that show his thinking processes, now shown on paper.

The first similarity is the use of the word supposed. It is used in a similar fashion as the word assumed, to indicate a lower level of thinking than Uriah’s. Both articles open with the use of this word to convey the writers opinion right early.

In A2 Uriah goes on in the opening paragraph to proudly declare that he knows more than any and it’s either his way or the highway.

 

All such speculators might as well spare their pains; for there is no such prophetic period in the Bible.

 

On the other hand, James does not write with such pride. Here is a sample of his writing.

 

While we may speak of fulfilled prophecy with positiveness, we would apply unfulfilled prophecy with becoming modesty. We may, however, suggest …. The Seven Trumpets, page 96.

 

Article A1 also carries the same note of pride and arrogance as A2.

Next, in the progression of the argument presented, is commentary on the term seven times. Again, both articles reflect the same path, even though they are separated by 33 years. Both articles then make the same point, that the term seven times is used four times, each time accompanied with greater punishment. But, out of all the different ways it could be stated, both articles use the word severe, or other forms of it.

Then both articles proceed to lean upon the Septuagint for an argument as to how to correctly understand God’s words. We know this is defiled bread and should not be used by any serious student. Uriah is using it in A2 and makes another point parallel to A1, that of the use of an adverb and the identical phrase in both articles, “a noun and it’s adjective.”

I find these parallels far too similar, even after a space of 33 years, depicting the thinking of the writer, Uriah Smith, that is locked in rebellion. And that that rebellion continued to the grave is easily provable by following the path of his adherence to his private interpretation of prophecy in what is known as, the partial resurrection. Here is the link to follow that thread.

Ironically, in the next to last sentence of A1, it states, “To ignore, or treat with neglect, a prophetic period where one is plainly given, is censurable in the extreme.” In this sentence the writer, who ever he may be, condemns himself, for it is God who endorsed the 1843 chart and even declared that he directed it.

We will here state, as a reminder, the qualifications for the true pioneers of the Advent faith; of which there are two. First, they had to have had personal experience in each of the three angel’s messages, and, second, they had to be firm in all the present truth. This is taken from The Present Truth, No. 11, page 86, right column, one third of the way up from the bottom, with a printed hand pointing to the text. This proves Uriah Smith is not a true pioneer of the Advent faith. He did not join the work until 1853 and became an editor in 1855.

Now let’s talk about James and his faithfulness.

In 1871 James wrote an exposition of Matthew 24. It makes sense that he would have written about Matthew 25, the parable of the ten virgins, after that, but we have no proof. It could have been before that date. So while we may not have a date, we do have the text. Here is an excerpt where James endorses the 2520 prophecy in two ways, first by putting it in his book and second by not saying it is a false prophetic timeline.

 

As it takes 457 full years and 1843, to make 2300, the fraction of the year 457, B. C., that had passed when the 70 weeks commenced, should be added to 1843, which brings the termination of the 2300 days in 1844. This point is made clear in the following testimony from the “Advent Herald” of Nov. 13, 1844. {ND JW, PARA 6.5}
“Our minds were directed to that point of time, [1843,] from the fact that dating the several prophetic periods from those years in which the best chronologers assign the fulfillment of those events which were to mark their commencement, they all seemed to terminate that year. This was, however, only apparent. We date the ‘seven times,’ or 2520 years, from the captivity of Manasseh, which is, with great unanimity, placed by chronologers B. C. 677. This date is the only one we have ever reckoned from, for the commencement of this period; and subtracting B. C. 677 from 2520 years there remained A. D. 1843. We, however, did not observe that as it would require 677 full years B. C. and 1843 full years A. D. to complete 2520 years, that it would also oblige us to extend this period as far into A. D. 1844 as it might have commenced after the beginning of B. C. 677. The same was also true of the other periods. The great jubilee of 2450 years, commencing with the captivity of Jehoiakim B. C. 607; and the 2300 days, commencing with the 70 weeks B. C. 457, would respectively require 1843 full years after Christ added to as many full years before Christ, as the years in which we have always respectively commenced each period, to complete the number of years in each; and as subtracting from each period the date B. C. of its commencement, there would remain A. D. 1843, no reference whatever was made to the fraction of the year, which in each case, had transpired from its commencement, and which would require that each period should extend as much beyond the expiration of A. D. 1843, as they respectively began after the commencement of the year B. C. from which they are dated. {ND JW, PARA 7.1}
While this discrepancy was not particularly noticed by us, it was also not noticed by any of our learned opponents. Amid all the arguments which were brought to bear against our position, no allusion was made to that point.” {ND JW, PARA 7.2}

 

Now we will turn our attention to the year 1875. James wrote the book Sketches of The Christian Life and Public Labors of William Miller. In this book, on page 57, the seven times of Leviticus 26 is mentioned, again with no words of correction, no note saying it is a false prophecy. But just across the page on 56, James has added a note of correction, not about the 2520 but another point. It’s obvious to me that James believed God’s light on the 2520 to be the truth.

And one last note about James’ faithfulness. Read chapter 16 in the 1880 Life Sketches, titled, Leadership, to understand his obedience to Gospel Order all his life. And you must read it out of an original version, the one on the White Estate CD is the counterfeit and this is the section where important information was chopped.

God Bless your Study

Friday May 3, 2013

We would kindly refer you back to Wednesday’s post, May 1, for a summary of what we are about today, as we are working on item No. 2, as listed there.

There is an article published in the R&H of January 26, 1864, which claims that the 2520 is not a valid prophetic timeline. I suggest that you take a moment and download that issue from the GC Archives site and read the article.

Because of it’s location on page four, directly under a box identifying James White as the editor, it is assumed that he wrote the article. But this is only an assumption and can not be proven at this late date. The article is un–signed.

This prompts the question, who is responsible?

I took the question to the library, and asked it. You know what they say, if you ask a question you will get an answer. I got an answer. It seems like a good one to me.

The answer came in the form of a referral to a link to an article titled, Who Writes Unsigned Editorials? Here are two excerpts. We suggest you read the article.

Unsigned editorials are billed as a newspaper’s “official” opinions. Taken literally, this is an odd notion. It’s one thing for a flesh-and-blood person like Maureen Dowd or William Safire to have an opinion, but the New York Times? So, who’s writing these editorials? And why aren’t they signing them?

And why don’t the writers sign their editorials? The reason is that individual editorials are supposed to reflect the collective judgment of the entire editorial board. Though written by different people, they are also supposed to speak with one voice and be philosophically consistent.

 

This information means that someone, anyone, on the editorial staff could have written that article. At this date, nobody has any right to claim they know for sure who wrote the article. There is no definitive piece of evidence extant that any such claim could be based on.

To be sure, the editor is responsible for what the paper carries. Practically, James was carrying a heavy load of responsibility. When you read about his life and how hard he worked, how sick he got, how much he suffered, and why? because he had to, was forced to, put trust and responsibility in and on others to help him carry the load. Some were not faithful to their trust.

But this is what made the man sick! Just like it makes you sick to pick up the R&H and read about B.B.Beach going to Rome to bow to, and promote relations with, the antichrist, the pope! Or when you read about the Davenport scandal. Or take your pick of any of hundreds and thousands of other scandals in the church. You know whereof I speak.

I doubt James had time to read everything thing that came out in the R&H. Just like today, the senior editor of most any paper does not read the whole thing and at times doesn’t read any of it. But I bet that at some time after this article came out James heard about it. He probably went home and cried.

Uriah repented in public more than once, is my understanding. He got more than one testimony for himself. But I will tell you plainly. In the light of unchanging history, Uriah Smith was not a converted man. He continued to cling to and publish his own opinion of Bible prophecy, in the face of very clear information from God through visions given to Ellen, which he professed publicly to support, all the while writing and publishing against those very gifts.

It’s sad but true and we have the evidence in the books published.

The point is that no person can prove that James White was the author of the article in question, published January 26, 1864, in the R&H, titled, The Seven Times of Lev. xxvi. All claims that he did are only based on an assumption, and only an assumption. Don’t believe it.

We have plenty of evidence that James was faithful and obedient to all the light he had, right to death. I will here remind you of the fact that we have, in God’s providence, discovered that the book Life Sketches, 1880 edition, has been counterfeited. They took out some powerful information about how faithful James really was.

God Bless your Study

Thursday May 2, 2013

The 2520 prophecy is a valid prophetic timeline. That is why it was on the 1843 chart, directed by God.

Here is what God has to say about this timeline.

 

The Lord showed me that the 1843 chart was directed by his hand, and that no part of it should be altered; that the figures were as he wanted them. That his hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until his hand was removed.
Then I saw in relation to the “Daily,” that the word “sacrifice” was supplied by man’s wisdom, and does not belong to the text; and that the Lord gave the correct view of it to those who gave the judgment hour cry. When union existed, before 1844, nearly all were united on the correct view of the “Daily;” but since 1844, in the confusion, other views have been embraced, and darkness and confusion has followed.
The Lord showed me that TIME had not been a test since 1844, and that time will never again be a test. The Present Truth, No. 11, page 87.

I saw that the truth should be made plain upon tables, that the earth and the fullness thereof is the Lord’s, and that necessary means should not be spared to make it plain. I saw that the old chart was directed by the Lord, and that not a figure of it should be altered except by inspiration. I saw that the figures of the chart were as God would have them, and that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none should see it till His hand was removed. [Spaulding-Magan Collection p. 1 para. 03] p. 12, Para. 7, [1852MS].

 

A primary concern is first noticing who is using the counterfeit SOP to do research. People who use the counterfeit WILL come to wrong conclusions somewhere down the line. They are actually trying to get to Heaven some other way than that which God has laid out.

A second concern is their understanding of the term inspiration. People who think Ellen is the author of the Spirit of Prophecy will place it on a lower level than it should be. In fact God is the author of the Spirit of Prophecy and it is he that tells us as plain as day that he directed the 1843 chart, which makes him the author. That really should be the end of the matter, at least for believers.

There are really two sources for the 2520 prophetic timeline. The first is found in Leviticus 26, in verses 18, 21, 24, 28, with the second being found in Daniel 12:7.

 

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. Daniel 12:7

 

In this verse, very specifically the angel is shown to be raising his right hand and his left. In the courts of this land tradition has a witness swear with the raising of a hand. In this verse the angel is also swearing about the 1260 days, but it is twice sworn to by the raising of both hands, thus making 2520 days, not just 1260.

The verses in Leviticus 26 should also be looked at, but the repetition of the threat four times does not indicate four times seven. It only indicates a repetition of the threat.

This is proven to be the correct understanding because God endorsed it so and claimed authorship. To reject this light simply because others do is to reject the light of the Midnight Cry and get off the path to the City.

God Bless your Study

Wednesday May 1, 2013

The 2520 prophecy has come under fire in the last few years and today seems a good time to set the record straight and dispel some misconceptions by showing the truth. My favorite topic, the truth.

Over the course of the next five days we will show the following.

1.) That the 2520 prophecy is a valid prophetic timeline.

2.) That no person can prove that James White was the author of an article in the R&H of January 26, The Seven Times of Lev. xxvi., 1864 which claims that the 2520 is not a valid prophetic timeline.  I suggest that you take a moment and download that issue from the GC Archives site and read the article.

 

3.) Some evidence to the effect that Uriah Smith was the real author of that article in the R&H of January 26, 1864 which claims that the 2520 is not a valid prophetic timeline.

4.) That there is only one 2520 prophecy and no more. Prophecy does not repeat nor does it have a re-application.

5.) The correct purpose of the 2520 prophecy for our day.

We have to remember that Satan is a liar and the father of all such as make lies their stronghold. Lies will be told and put forth as truthful facts. Only those who are willing to stay after the meeting and go the extra mile, or even two miles, to get to speak with Christ when he is alone, will be rewarded by hearing the sweet words from his lips, “unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God;” and hear words of truth and beauty and then you will understand.

So I would encourage you to get your studies in order, call your friends about this crazy blog, or whatever it is that you need to do to tackle this subject. Maybe put another folder in your computer to save the posts to. Just don’t pretend it doesn’t exist, cause it does.

God Bless your study