Monday July 22, 2013

We are living in the time of the third woe, under the sounding of the seventh trumpet. That this is conclusively proven should be without contest since Josiah Litch predicted the ending of the sixth trumpet on August 11, 1840, in 1838, two years before the event, by what was “purely a matter of calculation on the prophetic periods of Scripture.” The Seven Trumpets, by James White.

So what.?!

How could people take such a attitude!? I think this attitude is mostly limited to the US. Largely because we are and have been very protected almost from our beginning.

Woe equals trouble. I have 106 hits on the word in the KJV Bible, the only one you should be using, and the list of focus points is long!

Woe is called out against: Moab, the Philistines, the wicked, for living in Mesech or Kedar, me if I am alone when I fall, a land that has a child for a king, those that don’t hide their sin for they have rewarded evil unto themselves, those who try and buy up everything around themselves, them that rise up early to drink alcohol, them that seek after sin, those “that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!,” “them that are wise in their own eyes,” those mighty to drink, the unclean, those who pass unrighteous laws, the treacherous, the crown of pride, Ariel, “them that seek deep to hide their counsel from the LORD,” the rebellious, “them that go down to Egypt for help,” those that deal treacherously, “him that striveth with his Maker!,” those that do not honor their parents, Jerusalem, “the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture!,” Nebo, Babylon, the foolish prophets, churches that hunt souls, the bloody city, “the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves!” and not the flock, those “that desire the day of the LORD!,” “them that are at ease in Zion,” “them that devise iniquity,” “him that coveteth an evil covetousness,” “him that buildeth a town with blood,” “him that giveth his neighbour drink,” those who claim life for dumb idols, the Cherethites, “her that is filthy and polluted, to the oppressing city!,” “the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock!,” Chorazin, Bethsaida, “the world because of offences!,” the scribes and Pharisees, spiritually blind guides, the rich, the full, the laughers, “ you, when all men shall speak well of you!,” the lawyers, the one through whom offences come, ones who are called to preach the Word and don’t, those that “have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core;” then three woes to the earth “by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!,” and finally, “Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

War is part and parcel of most all human experience, simply because Satan’s agents are taking action against God’s people and have Satan’s thirst for power of control over others.

Back to that non-authenticated manuscript and a paragraph I found there.

I saw that this world was rocked in the cradle of security so that communications might not be cut off from place to place, and that messengers might have full time to carry the message to the children of God, that they receive it and be sealed with the seal of the living God, and be prepared to pass through the time of trouble such as never was. I saw that it must be a time of peace in order for the servants of God to do their work for souls. Manuscript 5, 1851.

There are a great many people who watch in awe that the US has not erupted into Civil War II, yet! Certainly the four angels are holding the four winds that peace shall prevail until the work is done. That said, we must of necessity be very close to the end of probation.

The woe pronounced upon the wicked is about to be fulfilled in full, unmixed with mercy.

The fact that these prophecies have been fulfilled is proof of the nearness of the second coming. There is not much time left to perfect your character. Get Ready!

God Bless your study

Sunday July 21, 2013

Every wind of doctrine, that’s what’s blowing these days!

I am looking at two articles, one on the trinity debate and another on the character of God debate. Most all such are written with a great emphases on “context,” which we covered just a few days ago, and “critical thinking,” also recently covered. Each one presents his case as the only way it should be understood. Why? Because the pioneers of this faith were wrong.

Now they don’t say it strongly as I did, but much more subtle, like Satan alluring with smooth words. Don’t you believe them! Prove it for yourself! Right here it is.

I was shown like this. The truth once got out now, will stand; for it is the truth for the last days, and it will live, and less need to be said upon the truth after it is out. Numberless words need not be put upon paper to justify what speaks for itself, and shines in its clearness. But it is not so with error. It is so winding and twisting that it needs a multitude of words to explain it in its crooked form. But truth is straight, plain, clear, and stands out boldly in its own defense. The cause of truth should not be hindered in its onward progress for want of means. p. 14, Para. 2, [SUPCEV].

This is what I see. People rise up at the promptings of Satan and think they have to bring great definition to something like God’s character. They do this “as if” man is going to be able to comprehend God! This is pure foolishness! It is a strong appeal to the pride of man. Here is the proof of that.

Satan would convey the idea that by eating of the forbidden tree, they would receive a new and more noble kind of knowledge than they had hitherto attained. This has been his special work with great success ever since his fall, to lead men to pry into the secrets of the Almighty, and not to be satisfied with what God has revealed, and not careful to obey that which he has commanded. He would lead them to disobey God’s commands, and then make them believe that they are entering a wonderful field of knowledge. This is purely supposition, and a miserable deception. They fail to understand what God has revealed, and disregard his explicit commandments, and aspire after wisdom, independent of God, and seek to understand that which he has been pleased to withhold from mortals. They are elated with their ideas of progression, and charmed with their own vain philosophy; but grope in midnight darkness relative to true knowledge. They are ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. p. 36, Para. 2, [1SP ].

So here is what we have, in the first passage above it was God that showed to his church, not Ellen, and it is God who is the author of the authentic Spirit of Prophecy, and it is God’s instruction that these people are setting aside as a thing of naught!

Thus they are not satisfied with what God has revealed! and are seeking to pry into the secrets of God! that which he has been pleased to withhold from mortals! There is more.

I was shown fields of labor. Towns, cities, and villages, everywhere, should hear the message of warning; for all will be tested and proved upon the message of present truth. p. 171, Para. 2, [22OT].

What is this “present truth” that all will be tested and proved upon? Why, it has to be the same exact present truth as in the first passage from above. This is so because we know that God is without a shadow of turning, he does not change! Plus, the message in the body of the authentic Spirit of Prophecy is in perfect harmony with all it’s parts and the Bible.

Why is it that everything changes at 1881? It’s real simple, James died and Willie took over and began the creation of the counterfeit SOP.

Many are tempted in regard to our work, and are calling it in question. … Some have sanctimonious, apparently conscientious and very pious, doubts, which they will cautiously drop, which has tenfold more power to strengthen those who are wrong and to lesson our influence and weaken the confidence of God’s people in our work, than if they came out more frankly. These poor souls, I saw, were deceived by Satan. They flatter themselves that they are all right, and in favor with God, rich in spiritual discernment, when they are blind, poor, and wretched. They are doing the work of Satan, and thinking they have a zeal for God. p. 11, Para. 5, [23OT].

Some will not receive the testimony God has given us to bear, flattering themselves we may be deceived, and they are right. p. 12, Para. 1, [23OT].

This is exactly the picture of these people who are traveling without a message from God. These things that God has not revealed are not to be probed by man.

Any time any one stands up and starts talking about how the pioneers did not understand something and or had something wrong, that should be a major red flag to you! Make sure you have your armor fully on!

Danger is at every hand, we are on enchanted ground…..

God Bless your Study

Sabbath July 20, 2013

Patience is required of God’s people.

I saw that it was impossible to have the affections and interests engrossed in worldly cares, increasing their possessions, laying up treasures upon the earth, and yet be in a waiting, watching position, as our Saviour has commanded. Said the angel, “They can secure but one world. In order to acquire the heavenly treasure, they must sacrifice the earthly. They cannot have both worlds.” p. 98, Para. 1, [16OT].

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 2 Peter 3:9-10

Interestingly, on page 94 of the same Testimony we are told that the Master’s sudden coming to find us asleep is actually the closing of probation. This makes the above texts expanded with meaning…..

Today is the Sabbath of the Lord. Part of this watching is to enter that rest spoken of in Hebrews.

Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 2 Peter 3:11

Do you know what this rest really is? It starts in Isaiah 28:12. In short, it is growing up spiritually.

I found this the other day in an un-authenticated manuscript I am examining. It is listed as MS1 1854. Just checked and found this portion on the WECD. What they don’t tell you there is that there is much they have not published out of this MS. More on that later. For now, even though this is not yet authenticated, it is highly probable that it is authentic. But notice the warning about the difference between the milk and the meat.

If those who have been in the church for weeks and months have not learned the straightness of the way, and what it is to be Christians, and cannot hear all the straight truths of the Word of God, it were better that they were cut off from Israel. It is too late in the day to feed with milk. If souls a month or two old in the truth, who are about to enter the time of trouble such as never was, cannot hear all the straight truth, or endure the strong meat of the straightness of the way, how will they stand in the day of battle? Truths that we have been years learning must be learned in a few months by those who now embrace the Third Angel’s Message. We had to search and wait the opening of truth, receiving a ray of light here and a ray there, laboring and pleading for God to reveal truth to us. But now the truth is plain; its rays are brought together. The blazing light of truth when it is presented as it should be can be now seen and brought to bear upon the heart. There is no need of milk after souls are convinced of the truth. As soon as the conviction of truth is yielded to and the heart willing, the truth should have its effect, the truth will work like leaven, and purify and purge away the passions of the natural heart. It is a disgrace for those who have been in the truth for years to talk of feeding souls who have been months in the truth, upon milk. It shows they know little of the leadings of the Spirit of the Lord, and realize not the time we are living in. Those who embrace the truth now will have to step fast. There will have to be a breaking up of heart before the Lord, a rending of heart, and not the garment. Ms. 1, 1854, pp. 2, 3. {1MR 33.4}

Folks, it’s high time to get real serious with God and your own life. Write me and ask if you want to know. I am available. I will give you straight answers. I am a sinner, a brand that God plucked from the burning. In helping you I help myself. That is God’s plan. We are to work for each other’s spiritual life.

Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. 2 Peter 3:12-13

God Bless your study

Friday July 19, 2013

Matthew 24:14 tells us when the end will be.

And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:14

There are many in the church who are preaching that we have to spread this gospel to all the world so the end can come. They preach and teach this because they are not walking in the light of the Midnight Cry. They are walking in darkness and know it not.

This gospel of the kingdom HAS BEEN preached in all the world for a witness. That end spoken of HAS COME, we are living in it now. Everyone since October 22, 1844 has been living in the time of the end. It’s been 169 years long now.

Time was a test for the early Advent people, but for those living since October 22, 1844 time has been a test in a different way; not a specific time or date, no, but an indefinite time stretches before them, testing, trying their faith. God was well aware of this future and gave us fair warning.

Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 2 Peter 3:3-4

Now the SDA church does not exactly follow what is laid out in these texts, but it is the subtle lies of Satan that they preach and teach. They make much of the idea that the pioneers held mistakes so we can not learn from them or their experience; in this they deny the light of the Midnight Cry and in truth actually speak the very words of The Day-Star, “that it was not God that had led them out so far.” Attributing the work of God to Satan is blasphemy.

And what is this distance that is “so far?” It is none other than the separation from the world that we MUST maintain. We are on enchanted ground! There is danger at every step! Goliath, that rebel-lion is running around destroying people who should be in Heaven. But he does not appear as a hideous monster, no, he comes as an angel of light, as the good looking, clean, well thought of, good speaker, minister, who teaches the lies of Satan when they should be teaching the truth.

Here is a good example.

And the video of this SDA pastor preaching this lie is still available from their website.

For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: 2 Peter 3:5-6

Here I will again promote the site that will totally amaze you in the huge amount of documentation on the flood that is available anywhere.

And I just found this, “Methuselah (tree)” from Wikipedia. Satan wants to cover up the truth of the flood and many people trust what so called experts claim. It’s good to have expert help with lots of things, but when they are willing to twist the truth to their own ends, you must prove all things and inspect what you expect. Here is an excerpt.

Methuselah is a 4844-year-old[1] Great Basin bristlecone pine (Pinus longaeva) tree growing high in the White Mountains of Inyo County in eastern California.[2][3] For many years it was the world’s oldest known living non-clonal organism, until superseded by the discovery of another bristlecone pine in the same area with an age of 5063 years (germination in 3051 BC).[1] The tree is named after Methuselah, a Biblical figure having the longest mentioned lifespan in the Bible of 969 years.

It just so happens that the flood occurred about the year 2348 B. C., but there is clearly an agenda that must be met. Either God preserved this tree through the flood or it was transplanted there by the flood and adapted to the very harsh climate. I have my doubts.

What we do have are the amazing discoveries of Ron Wyatt who found the Red Sea crossing and documented it. He also found the right Mount Sinai, whose whole top is burnt to a crisp. And there are other artifacts at the base of the mountain where the Israelites camped.

By ignoring these discoveries they make themselves willingly ignorant of the facts and prevent others who trust them from discovering the truth themselves.

Terrible will be the consequences of these actions.

God Bless your Study

Thursday July 18, 2013

Because of the subject matter we deal with here at the view of trusted material can at times become obscured as the trash from the flood of evil gets carried on the waves and deposited at your feet. Time for a recap.

What can be trusted?

1.) The KJV Bible. This is so important that it eclipses all else. This is the only known “modern” (a totally relevant term) translation that is pure.

If you have questions about this or not, I strongly urge you to go to Gail Riplinger’s site, click this link, and spend a couple of bucks. I recommend you purchase In Awe of Thy Word and Hazardous Materials. These two books will answer most every objection there is. The research is very deep and the answers are quite strong.

In addition, get a copy of Our Authorized Bible Vindicated, by Benjamin G. Wilkinson. While Gail Riplinger is not an SDA, Ben is. This in no way discounts Gail’s work, it is just too excellent to be overlooked. What Ben does is to bring in the Advent pillars to his writing.

2.) The authenticated Spirit of Prophecy. Ellen was chosen by God to be his prophet and so she was. We understand she was faithful her whole life to the time of James’ death in 1881; past that date we have little proof of anything except the creation of the counterfeit SOP. But we believe that she would have been faithful the rest of her life by habit and turning to God, though the crisis around her raged.

Here is the book list we recommend. Everything we have is available for free from our download page.

3.) There are certain other true pioneer authors whose writings are for us today. O. R. L. Crosier is a prime one. It is important to understand that Crosier’s entire article is endorsed by God.

William Miller’s writings and his rules of interpretation of the Bible should be first level material. James White wrote much at the call of God and was often inspired in his speaking and writing.

These are the three main areas of reading and study you should focus on to get grounded solid in the faith. Without these you will be fodder for Satan. The counterfeited bibles and SOP will, without a doubt, will, get you off track and likely lost absent a miracle from God to save you.

This is where Saul was before he became Paul. The Jews had counterfeited their bible and they were using their traditions. This is much the same as the counterfeit SOP, many traditions, such as Ingathering, are found to be endorsed in this body of material.

Prove all things before you buy….

God Bless your Study

Wednesday July 17, 2013

A dear Sister brought another item to my attention. Here are her words.

In 1996 a book was published called Ye Shall Receive Power with the author allegedly listed as Ellen White.

Ye Shall Rec. Pwr, p.59

PhotoCopy from the book of page 59.

It was the devotional book that year and supposedly containing hundreds of quotations from her writings. They each were footnoted. However looking up each one in the original to verify the faithfulness of how they were quoted was obviously not expected by the publishers. Some of the wording was altered without notation but with clear intent. These were not spelling corrections or other legitimate editorial changes, but altering for intent without notification that changes had been made. In short deception. There is no other word for it. Here is the evidence, judge for yourself. I have asked for an answer for it from the White Estate, but to date have only received automated platitudes acknowledging my inquiry but so far nothing of substance.



Clicking on the thumbnail will yield a readable copy. I did a little bit of research on this and here is what I found.

1.) All parts of this material are considered to be counterfeited, anyway.

2.) On the 2008 White Estate CD, we find there to be very little change between the 1899 Sign of the Times and the 1996 {YRP 59}. Only one sentence was deleted with two texts.

3.) The importance of the image of the printed book is that it proves that what was printed is different from what is on the WECD. The changes are marked on the image.

4.) It gets even better. The following is the actual source for the 1899 Signs article. Of which there are three. We will put a link below for you to see the actual comparison in Red, Blue, and Black ink. It is quite clear that this is not the way Ellen worked. She did not spend her time pouring over all the material written in the past to cobble up something for next week’s article in the Signs of the Times.

We are to pray for the impartation of the Spirit as the remedy for sin-sick souls. {1888 1540.1}

In our day the church has been to a great degree content with the surface truths of revelation, made so plain and easy to be understand that many have thought these supplied all that was essential, and in accepting them they have been content. But the Holy Spirit, working upon the mind, will not allow it to rest in indolence. It awakens an earnest desire for truth uncorrupted with error and false doctrines. Celestial truths will reward the diligent seeker. {1888 1537.2}

The church needs to be converted, and why should we not prostrate ourselves at the throne of grace, as representatives of the church, and from a broken heart and contrite spirit make earnest supplication that the Holy Spirit shall be poured out upon us from on high? {1888 1540.1}

The Lord would have every one of his believing children rich in faith; and this is the fruit of the working of the Holy Spirit upon the heart. {1888 1538.2}

All above from: Chap. 180 – To S. N. Haskell “Sunnyside”, Cooranbong, N.S.W. May 30, 1896 H – 38 – 1896

The Holy Spirit never leaves unassisted the soul who is looking unto Jesus. He takes of the things of Christ and shows them unto him. If the eye is kept fixed on Christ, the work of the Spirit ceases not until the soul is conformed to His image. {DA 302.1} 1898

Through the gracious influence of the Holy Spirit he is changed, and becomes one with Christ in spirit and purpose. His affection for God increases, he hungers after righteousness, and longs to be more like his master. By beholding Christ, he is changed from glory to glory, from character to character, and becomes more and more like Jesus. He is imbued with love for Christ and filled with a deep, unresting love for perishing souls, and Christ is formed within, the hope of glory. {SpTA03 53.1} May 7, 1895. Observance of the Sabbath.

Here is the link for the comparison. It makes it very easy to see the work done. All this is in perfect harmony with what came out in the 1919 Bible Conference in a comment by, none other than A. G. Daniels, and published in a research paper by the church.

Daniells expressed his opinion that holding to a verbal inspiration concept of the Testimonies was illogical “because everybody who has ever seen the work done knows better, and we might as well dismiss it.” p. 9, Para. 3, [1919BIBL].

We have commented on this before, click here for post, and while you are in there you might as well read some of the comments about that paper. But today’s post shows exactly the truth that, “everybody who has ever seen the work done knows” that it’s not inspired.

And we here at could not agree more.

If you are a church member reading this, I hope you get angry about what you have just read. Remember, the only thing I have done is show you what you have in the books on your shelf. It’s right in front of your face. Maybe your anger will prompt you to write. Maybe it will create an interest in you for the truth. Maybe you will ASK, ask, seek, knock, until you get an answer, find, and a door opens.

God Bless your Study

Tuesday July 16, 2013

We are living in the great Anti-Typical Day of Atonement and have been since the Father and Christ went into the Most Holy place on October 22, 1844. There is an important work for each saint in connection with this day’s work. It is examining our lives and making sure every sin is confessed to God that that sin might be blotted out of the books in Heaven.

There are not a large amount of references to “blotting” in the Testimonies, about seven, by my count. Sometimes it is said another way, but the message of preparation is very important. Here a couple of passages with this message.

O, let us live wholly for the Lord, and show by a well ordered life, and godly conversation that we have been with Jesus, and are his meek and lowly followers. We must work while the day lasts, for when the dark night of trouble and anguish comes, it will be too late to work for God. Jesus is still in his Holy Temple, and will now accept our sacrifices, our prayers, and our confessions of faults and sins, and will now pardon all the transgressions of Israel, that they may be blotted out before he leaves the Sanctuary. When Jesus leaves the Sanctuary, then he that is holy and righteous, will be holy and righteous still; for all their sins will then be blotted out, and they will be sealed with the seal of the living God. But those that are unjust and filthy, will be unjust and filthy still; for then there will be no Priest in the Sanctuary to offer their sacrifices, their confessions, and their prayers before the Father’s throne. Therefore, what is done to rescue souls from the coming storm of wrath, must be done before Jesus leaves the Most Holy Place of the Heavenly Sanctuary. [RH 09-01-49 para. 7] p. 9, Para. 1, [1849MS].

To these youth I am authorized to say, Repent ye and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out. There is no time for you to waste. Heaven and immortal life are valuable treasures that will cost an effort on your part to obtain. No matter how faultless may have been your lives, as sinners you have steps to take. You are required to repent, believe, and be baptized. Christ was wholly righteous, yet he, the Saviour of the world, gave man an example, by taking the steps himself which he requires the sinner to take to become a child of God–an heir of Heaven. p. 51, Para. 1, [26OT].

It is a part of the apostasy of the church that this great work God’s people must engage and complete, is not preached, not taught, not spoken. Yet those who do not participate in this work can not be saved; for they are trying to get to Heaven outside of God’s appointed way.

Here is one more.

Your influence has been improving for some weeks in the past, but you lack a firm principle. You lack in many things, and in some things you must know where you fail. The follies of your youth have left their impress upon you, and you can never recover what you have lost through impure habits. These things have benumbed your sensibilities so that sacred things are not clearly discerned. You cannot, with your present experience, resist temptation. You cannot endure trials. You are not sanctified through the truth. You have taken hold of the truth, but the truth has not taken hold upon you, to transform you by the renewing of your mind. Oh! do not, I entreat of you, remain deceived in regard to your true condition. You are a self-deceived man. You have not felt deep conviction because of your sins, and in deep humility sought the Lord with anguish of heart, that your transgressions might be blotted out. You could not see that your ways were so sinful before God. The work is not inwrought in your soul. A self-righteous garment you have clothed yourself with to cover up the deformity of sin; but this is not the remedy. You know not what true conversion is. The old man with you is not dead. You have a form of godliness, but not the cleansing power of God. You can, and do, talk and write smoothly. Your words, as far as they go, may possibly be correct, but the true language of the heart is not spoken. You know this. You are thus much acquainted with yourself. Your case is perilous; yet God pities you, and will save you if you fall all broken at his feet, feeling your vileness, and impurity, and rottenness of soul, without the transforming power of God. p. 155, Para. 3, [17OT].

Do not wait til YOU think your life is about to close, lest you be like the man in the parable who said, “Soul, thou hast much goods laid up for many years; take thine ease, eat, drink, and be merry. But God said unto him, Thou fool, this night thy soul shall be required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast provided? So is he that layeth up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God.” Luke 12:20-21

This is a part of that that is said, “Get ready, get ready, get ready!” Christ could come this very year!

God Bless your Study

Monday July 15, 2013

We just mentioned Gar Baybrook, the owner of Leaves of Autumn, now out of business, yesterday and I happen to have a saved copy of the cover of one of his catalogs. On the inside of the front Gar would often write some communication. This particular one is about changes in the writings.

For the record I will state, with me, Leaves of Autumn has a great reputation for republishing the books they did republish at 100% scale, which means it was the exact size as the original. I appreciate that, it makes it easy to work with.

I question just how much Gar really knew. I do not know. Perhaps he was too busy doing other things to actually study into the matter. So we are going to put so excerpts here from the September 2006 edition of his catalog. The language is all his.

We gitta lot o calls frum new members (er even non-members) what are suddenly all excited about tha Lord and they want nuthin but “original” books. Now tha original SDA books date back ta tha mid 1800s. I mean it. We hev reprinted many of them. But they say, “I don’t want a “reprint”, I gotta hev tha original. “They” hev changed the ol books. Tha only change in our reprints is on the back of tha Title page it mentions thet in “1983 we reprinted 300 copies” THAT DOES NOT CHANGE ONE RELIGIOUS IDEA IN THET BOOK!!!

Newcomers, who hev no idea what religion is all about hev been tol’ by some offshoot thet “they” (ever try ta figger out who “they:” are???) changed Sister White’s books. Sister White got vision after vision frum about 1844 till she died in 1915. Tha visions kept addin ta tha subject as history changed things. So she would write a new book thet added a lot to what she hed done writ before! Tha Lord hed changed the subject…not Sister White and certainly not some member er pastor. If ya insist on an “original” then yore not gitten tha whole message.

Well, that’s enough to make the point. I do know for a fact that Verne Bates, who owns Echoes from the Past, has bought books from Gar. In fact, Verne bought some of his original testimonies from Gar. But to my knowledge, Leaves of Autumn has never offered re-prints of the original testimonies. Just like the White Estate has not put the original testimonies on the Research CD. We ask, why?

People taking sides, that’s why.

As I stated, I have no knowledge of what Gar knew, but in his position, it had to be plenty. I’m not sure how many years Leaves operated, but it had to be something on the order of 30 to 40 or more. His comments above I find to be disingenuous, misleading. He did reprint many of the old books, but he did also pick and choose what. Clearly he marched in lockstep with the White Estate.

Around here, everything we find, we make public and everything on this site is in the public domain. Copy and print all you like. You should, however, give credit where credit is due.

God Bless your Study

Sunday July 14, 2013

We know God is in charge of all. He has brought an item to our attention, which we now share with you.

Leaves of Autumn, now out of business, used to publish a copy of Spalding & Magan, a one inch thick, eight and a half by eleven book. Evidently Gar Baybrook, the owner of Leaves of Autumn, had a communication with the White Estate regarding the first vision in that book, pages 1-2, apparently through a third party and, as providence would have it, Arthur White is the one who responded.

Subsequent to this Gar inserted this information in place of page 1, of Spalding & Magan, so future purchasers of the book would have the White Estate’s position on the matter. That, according to the date on the letter, was in 1965. This communication is placed here for your convenience.

Dear Gar:
Some time ago you sent me a xerox copy of some supposed quotations from the Magan-Sutherland-Spalding collection for me to verify. I had already one of those sheets, which I got from someone out that way, and had it bound into one of my books of manuscripts. I have always questioned the reading of those quotes, as they didn’t sound just like her writings, they had a cracked ring to them, someway. So, after awhile I wrote to Elder Arthur L. White, and today receive the following statement. –

Washington, DC October 13, 1965

Dear Brother Clark:-

I have a letter from you which I shall answer, perhaps today, but I find in the mail today your request for a verification of certain materials bearing the date of October 23, 1850. We have no authentic source for this material and consider it to be apocryphal.

There are some statements in this which lead us to question seriously if the words were actually penned by Ellen G. White. There is no statement of this character in the E. G. White Manuscript Files, or in her published works.

signed, Arthur L. White

Then one day in the distant future, when computers and the net were pervasive, someone hacked the file out of the White Estate’s control and released it on the net. And it fell on a day that a copy came in to my hands….

And lo and behold, that vision IS in the manuscript file. The White Estate has had this vision as an authentic source, but lied about it’s existence. They claim all these manuscripts were written by Ellen.

Notice Arthur’s words in this brief letter— five times, by my count, he denies the existence of this vision.

Under the “Topics” heading at the right of the blog we have added Arthur’s name under the list of insiders.

This is one of the problems of man being in leadership. He thinks it proper that he should make decisions for all the rest— because he knows best; after all, he has a degree–in worldly wisdom….

Everyone has to prove all things.

God Bless your study

Sabbath July 13, 2013

God has a plan and a path, it is his appointed way.

I have tried in the fear of God to set before his people their danger and their sins; and have endeavored to the best of my feeble powers to arouse them. I have stated startling things, which, if they had believed, would have caused them distress and terror, and led them to zeal in repenting of their sins and iniquities. I have stated before them that, from what was shown me, but a small number of those now professing to believe the truth, would eventually be saved–not because they cannot be saved, but because they will not be saved in God’s own appointed way. The way marked out by our divine Lord is too narrow and the gate too strait to admit them with their grasp upon the world, or while cherishing selfishness, or anything wrong. There is no room for these, and yet there are but few who will consent to part with these things, that they may pass the narrow way, and enter the strait gate. p. 135, Para. 1, [18OT].

Remember Noah’s ark? Only eight, only eight people got on board. James writes in Noah’s Time and Ours, “God has never revealed his truth to man in a manner to compel him to believe.”

That is the crux of the matter. No one is compelled to believe. Satan in fact, compelling people, but God does not. Everyone must show forth their true character and that is the way the entire plan of salvation is set up, to reveal character. Then when the decision comes down, all will know beyond a shadow of a doubt that the decision is just.

Fearful time, fearful day. Make a decision to sacrifice all of this life for the next. Think of the price. Think of the reward.

Heaven will be cheap enough!

God Bless your study